A teacher may help a student access deeper levels of consciousness by facilitating regression to another time and place. Exploring in this way, without believing, disbelieving, or shutting down on whatever arises in mind can be a way to work with intense difficulty and ease suffering. Here Sokuzan gives an example of working with deeper consciousness during a meditation interview.
Sokuzan has an open interview with members of the Sangha.
Sokuzan and Shoka have an open interview followed by questions from the Sangha.
This interview with Sokuzan on taking refuge vows and the five precepts was conducted and transcribed for a group of Buddhist inmates as a study aid to help them prepare for their refuge vow ceremony with Sokuzan in a Michigan prison.